This Incredible Plane: T-38 Talon (2024)

Name a 60-year-old airplane that has trained more than 50,000 pilots, is the ride of choice for NASA astronauts, and looks just as elegant as any of the latest supersonic jets on the ramp today. That describes the Northrop T-38 Talon.

Slender, graceful, supersonic, and highly maneuverable all apply here. Yet, the T-38 has managed to be forgiving enough to allow aspiring young U.S. Air Force pilots, with a little more than 100 hours flight time in their logbooks, to solo in it in just 10 to 12 hours. All of this may explain its more than 60 years of service training pilots in a wide variety of additional roles. So where did this story begin?

The year is 1953. The Air Force is in the middle of developing the Century Series of jet fighters, beginning with the F-100 Super Sabre and progressing through a line of ever larger, more powerful, and faster aircraft, the lone exception being the lightweight and very powerful F-104 Starfighter. Northrop Aviation, having become aware of the small-but-powerful General Electric J-85 jet engine, decided a true lightweight fighter propelled by two of these 3,000-pound thrust (with afterburner) engines was in order. The company felt its low- cost “hot rod” might outperform the Century Series fighters and not break the U.S. Treasury while doing it.

The airplane that emerged, designated the N-156, set the design for the more than 2,500 F-5 “Freedom Fighters” that would serve for nearly six decades with air forces around the world. The design featured two J-85 engines (with afterburner) mounted in tandem within a removable tail cone. The aircraft featured modest low-aspect-ratio wings, large all-moving stabilators, and an elegant single vertical tail. The co*ckpit section, mounted forward of the split inlets, was relatively roomy, well laid out, and featured outstanding visibility around the slender nose section. Despite its success as an export fighter, the F-5 didn’t match it at home, serving primarily in the aggressor role. However, the design became an immediate contender to replace the aging T-33 Shooting Star (itself a derivative of the original single-seat Lockheed P-80) in the 1958 U.S. Air Force Undergraduate Pilot Training (UPT) advanced trainer competition.

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The subsequent airplane, the T-38A Talon—bereft of the F-5’s armaments,hardpoints, and war paint—featured a slightly lengthened nose section, gleaming white paint, and a tandem canopy. These modifications turned the relatively stubby F-5 into a graceful beauty, often dubbed the “White Rocket.” These good looks were matched by the Talon’s stunning performance. In 1962, a T-38A wrested the 3,000-, 6,000-, 9,000-, and 12,000-meter records for absolute time to climb from the significantly more powerful F-104 Starfighter. To be fair, an F-4 Phantom reclaimed these records a month later, but it took the combined thrust of the two 18,000- pound J-79 engines to beat the little Mach 1.3 T-38.

The T-38 entered service as the Air Force advanced trainer in 1961 and continues in that role today, even as it is being replaced by the Boeing-Saab T-7 Red Hawk. More than 1,000 examples were constructed between 1961 and 1972. During those 60 years, the Air Force has been one of the few armed services in the world to turn loose its senior flight students in a supersonic jet.

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Over its lifetime, there have been many variants of the T-38, but the Air Force has primarily relied on three. In addition to the basic T-38A, an AT-38B variant was developed for “fighter lead in training” at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. The B variant adds a basic gunsight and weapons pods to the airframe to help pilots make the transition from UPT to advanced fighter maneuvers. More recently, nearly 500 T-38A models were modified by the Boeing Co. to the T-38C configuration. These modifications increased the power and reliability of the original J-85 engines, enlarged the engine inlets to help the engines breathe better, strengthened the wings and tail feathers, and modernized the co*ckpit with digital/head-up display (HUD) technology.

And then there is the T-38N. In the early days of NASA, astronauts flew a variety of military jets to remain proficient, including the aging F-102 Delta Dagger. However, it quickly became clear that a cost-effective airframe for astronaut travel and proficiency was needed. Enter the Talon. Since 1961 NASA has operated a fleet of as many as 32 T-38N variants. These T-38s have been upgraded with weather radar, modern flight management systems, and improved communication systems to allow for their frequent travel in the National Airspace System.

And the N models sport the space agency’s iconic paint scheme, featuring the NASA stripe down the fuselage and logo on the tail. During the space shuttle years, the T-38N was the primary means of transport for astronauts from Houston to Cape Canaveral in Florida. Every prelaunch press conference was conducted in front of a covey of gleaming NASA T-38s lending their stunning good looks to the occasion. And finally, no image of the space shuttle landing test program would be complete without a pair of T-38s flying chase.

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For most people, the most iconic representation of the T-38 is the livery of the Air Force Thunderbirds. During the early 1970s gas shortages, the T-38 fit the bill as an economical yet high-performance demonstration aircraft. From 1974 until a tragic accident in 1982 during practice that claimed the lives of the four diamond pilots, the Air Force Thunderbirds flew the T-38 in flight demonstrations around the country. Additionally, SR-71, U2, B1, B2, and B-52 pilots, among others, flew the T-38 as a low-cost way to keep their edge.

So, this prompts the question: What is it like to fly the T-38? The more than 50,000 pilots who have flown the aircraft would tell you it flies as well as it looks. With the power to perform beautiful, 6,000- foot loops, a 720-degree-per-second roll rate, and 170-knot final approach speed, the airplane responds to the pilot’s slightest commands with immediate response. And hats off to T-38 instructor pilots (IPs). Since the T-38 does not feature the “stadium seating”—the instructor seat mounted well above the student’s—of more modern trainers, T-38 IPs master landing from the back seat without actually being able to see their touchdown point. And landing is the best part—just aim about 500 feet short of the runway threshold, and at the last second, pull back slightly on the stick, and the Talon will smoothly touchdown at the cruise speed of a Cirrus SR20 every time.

As mentioned, the Talon is scheduled to remain in service until the end of the decade, while its successor, the Boeing-Saab T-7 Red Hawk, comes online. When they finally retire, maybe more will find their way into private hands, just like the P-51 Mustangs that grace the air show circuit. So, next time you are at an airshow, look for this incredible plane lighting up the sky.

This article first appeared in the August 2023 print edition of Plane & Pilot.

This Incredible Plane: T-38 Talon (2024)

FAQs

How many T-38 talons are there? ›

Program Overview. More than 72,000 U. S. Air Force pilots have trained in Northrop Grumman Corporation's T-38 Talon, the world's first supersonic trainer when it entered service. Nearly 1,200 Talons were produced from 1961-72, and more than 500 are currently operational with the Air Force and NASA.

Is the T-38 hard to fly? ›

A U.S. Air Force major, a grizzled, gray-haired old pilot, probably all of 45 years old and with 3000 hours in the T-38, once told me, “The T-38 is an easy plane to fly, but it's hard to fly well.” After flying it as a student pilot, as a copilot in the Accelerated Copilot Enrichment (ACE) program, and later as an IP, ...

Is the T-38 Talon supersonic? ›

The T-38 Talon is a twin-engine, high-altitude, supersonic jet trainer used in a variety of roles because of its design, economy of operations, ease of maintenance, high performance and exceptional safety record.

What is the top speed of the T 38c Talon? ›

The T-38 can fly at Mach 1.3 (858 mph, 1,382 km/h).

Does the Air Force still fly the T-38? ›

The Northrop-built Talon first flew in 1959. Since then more than 1,100 were delivered to the Air Force between 1961 and 1972. Approximately 562 remain in service throughout the United States Air Force (USAF).

Is the T-38 Talon retired? ›

The T-38 remains in service as of 2023 with several air forces. As of 2023, the T-38 has been in service for over 60 years with the USAF, its original operator.

Is the P-38 hard to fly? ›

While the P-38 was considered no more difficult to fly than most single-engine high-performance fighters, pilots said it took about twice as much flight time to master the P-38's full potential.

Can a civilian fly a T-38? ›

To fly in a T-38 as a civilian is not easy. You must get medical clearance not once, but twice – first from a personal physician, then from the local base doctor. After that, it's a day of training maneuvers to learn to egress from the aircraft in the event of a major malfunction on the ground or in the air.

Do astronauts still fly T-38s? ›

In fact, the performance of an astronaut in the T-38 was the single most valid predictor of that astronaut's performance in spaceflight. That's why ISS astronauts still train in the T-38 even though no one flies the ISS.

What replaced the T-38 Talon? ›

A USAF Northrop T-38 Talon from the 560th Flying Training Squadron. The T-38 is to be replaced as the USAF advanced jet trainer by the T-X program winner, the Boeing T-X, now known as the T-7 Red Hawk.

Is the T-38 Talon privately owned? ›

There are 7 privately owned T-38s. Another operator of the T-38 is NASA. The aircraft are used by the astronauts for necessary travel and as chase planes. NASA has maintained a fleet of 32, housed primarily at Ellington Field in Houston, Texas.

What does the T stand for in T-38? ›

As someone that has ~100 hours in the T-38, I could not believe how wrong they got that scene. First, there's never been a single-seat T-38. The T stands for Trainer. Wouldn't be much of a trainer if there wasn't room for an instructor and student. Ellington to the Cape is a *long* flight in the T-38.

How much does the T-38 Talon cost? ›

One unit of the T-38 cost $756,000 in 1961, adjusted to today's currency, per the US Air Force.

Can the T-38 carry weapons? ›

Modified with a weapons pylon and a gunsight, the Talon became the AT-38B (LIFT). AT-38Bs could carry gun pods, rockets or practice bombs, and trainee pilots learned basic combat maneuvers and air-to-ground weapons delivery in them.

What is the difference between the T-38 and the F 22? ›

The T-38s will serve in a "red air," or enemy capacity, while F-22s will fly as "blue air," or friendly forces. Each T-38 can be flown as often as three times daily to provide adversary support at a fraction of the cost of launching a Raptor.

What will replace the T-38 Talon? ›

A USAF Northrop T-38 Talon from the 560th Flying Training Squadron. The T-38 is to be replaced as the USAF advanced jet trainer by the T-X program winner, the Boeing T-X, now known as the T-7 Red Hawk.

What is the roll rate of the T-38 Talon? ›

The more than 50,000 pilots who have flown the aircraft would tell you it flies as well as it looks. With the power to perform beautiful, 6,000- foot loops, a 720-degree-per-second roll rate, and 170-knot final approach speed, the airplane responds to the pilot's slightest commands with immediate response.

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